LOST ATLANTIS WAS "VARUN MAHALAYA PRADESH"
Poseidon = Poes Dhon = Payas Dhan.
Here Sanskrit word PayasDhan means one who has the wealth of water/seas.
As Varun (Borun) is the vedic god of oceans so Varun is PayasDhan and hence it is most likely that Varun is same as Poseidon.
That the original name of sunken Kingdom of Atlas mostly would have been Varun Mahalaya Pradesh or Borun Mahalaya Pradesh in ancient Indonesia.
Regarding the name of Atlantis proper or the Kingdom of Atlas, I think that this Kingdom has to be ocean based and centered around the personality of God Poesdon i.e. Varuna and his marvelous mansion. Incidentally Varuna is pronounced as Borun by the East Indians. Further Mahalaya is the Big House or the Great Mansion and Pradesh is the State. So the name of the Kingdom or State of Poseidon shall be Borun Mahalaya Pradesh.
This can have some similarity as many large states of India have names like Uttar Pradesh, Madhya Pradesh, Andhra Pradesh, Himachal Pradesh, Arunanchal Pradesh, Megh Alaya Pradesh etc.
Regarding Borun Mahalaya Pradesh it should be logical that it fragmented and mostly got sunk under the ocean. So now we can find even those fragmented names and regions thereof.
As a name Borun Mahalaya Pradesh fragmented in to three regions. First was Borun which linguistically transformed into the Island of Borneo, Second was Mahalaya, which linguistically distorted in to the peninsula of Malaya as the soft alphabet H could have been easily dropped in to the sea and the third was Pradesh or the State which got sunk and is now globally remembered as the Pradesh or Paradise. So Paradise may be only a linguistic distortion of the word Pradesh or State. This should not be very astonishing, as even in the modern days America is being understood as the States and many peoples on this globe consider it to be the Paradise.
This Great Mansion is necessary as Varun was supposed to be a Great God and so have to live in a Great Mansion. In Hindi, this Mahalaya has been abbreviated into Mahal with the same meaning i.e. Great Mansion.
In Dravid, this word similarly seems to have transformed into Malayalam. How similar it is to Malaya?
This word seems to have been extended up to Malagasy i.e. the original name of Madagascar. Some ancient sea peoples would have been responsible for that.
In Atlantean matters, I am putting my emphasis on Mahalaya. This is because, not only Plato has emphasized in details about a Great Mansion studded with Orichalcum for Poseidon, but also the Ramayana describes about the Shining and Great Mansion of Varun as a hallmark of their directional analysis as seen by Sugreeva.
In short, we can say that the Paradise, Atlantis Proper, Atlas Kingdom, Varun Mahalaya Pradesh or Borneo Malaya Paradise etc. are only one and the same ancient entity.
NAMES OF TEN ATLANTEAN KINGDOMS
Plato in Critias has named all the 10 Kingdoms of Atlantis as following: Atlas, Eumelus/Gadeirus, Ampheres, Evaemon, Mneseus, Autochthon, Elasippus, Mestor, Azaes and Diaprepes.
Lost Atlantis was an ancient 'Varun Mahalaya Pradesh'...
PREFACE:
PREFACE:
There was a long persistent general impression, that with the apocalyptic sinking of Atlantis, all of its achievements, civilized culture and location have been obliterated and lost beyond recognition and were irretrievable now. Some thinkers have taken enough pains to indicate that the origins of the ancient civilizations like Egypt, Sumer, Indus Valley, Inka, Maya etc could have been deeply rooted in the lost Atlantis during remote times. But it was obviously very difficult to impress such things on the orthodox science without exact proofs.
With the rapid growth of science, it soon started becoming evident that in such matters the orthodox science was really too orthodox to conceive of anything beyond its frozen boundaries. The new and developing techniques of remote sensing, satellite mapping, marine archeology and human genetic studies are ever opening new vistas that were earlier unthinkable. The changing scenario soon brought forward the scientific thinker like Prof. Arysio Nunes dos Santos, who was able to present the most scientifically plausible theory about the location of sunken Atlantis within the almost shallow waters of South China Sea and in the vicinity of the Bay of Bengal. This near magical theory was to bring about an avalanche of new thoughts with consequential attempts and new evidences.
One of such humble thought and attempt for correlation was made in the most neglected and unassuming field of verbal-phonetics. I felt that if the sunken Atlantis was in the vicinity of India and if the Indian culture and civilization is considered by many to be one of the oldest and most uninterrupted in the world. Then it is highly possible that the ancient Atlantean verbal-phonetics could have transformed and survived within the broad Diaspora of Indian languages inclusive of so-called IE and Dravid or other group of languages.
Based upon some amount of initial successes and my knowledge and experience, I prepared a most likely format for transformation of verbal-phonetics, according to which the global vocal alphabets of the human beings can be colloquially divided in to the following categories:
(1) H, A, O, E, I, Y, U, V
(2) B, BH, V, W, P
(3) C, CH, CHH, K, KH, QU, S, SH, X, kchX, G
(4) D, DH, rrDr, T, TH
(5) F, PH, P, F/V
(6) Y, J, JH, Z, G, GH
(7) L
(8) M, N
(9) R, rrDr, L
(10) NG, MG, NH, MH
H, A, O, E, I, Y, U = can be ZERO (As these are vowels or soft alphabets)
So all the alphabets spoken on this earth can be generally and phonetically grouped in TEN above groups, on the basis of their resemblance and proximity.
Kindly permit me to take the liberty of calling these Groups of Alphabets as Alphagroups.
Verbal-Phonetic Correlation in Atlantean Matters:
(1) Regarding “Atlas” kingdom of Atlantis, following relationship can be applicable:
Atlas << Atala ~ ‘Atala Lok’ of Indian epics (Like Patala, Sutala, Talatala etc).
I have considered this Atala or Atlas Kingdom of Atlantis as being same as Varun Mahalaya Pradesh or Borneo Malaya Paradise.
(2) Regarding Azaes kingdom of Atlantis, following relationship can be applicable:
Azaes << Azades << Aza Desh << Brahma Desh = Burma = Myanmar
“Aza” is another famous name for “Brahma” i,e. the God of creation and also one of the members of Trinity along with Har and Hari. Till approximately 40 years back, Myanmar was known as “Burma” by the English speaking peoples and also “Brahma Desh” i.e. “Nation of God Brahma” by most Indians.
(3) Regarding Avoemen kingdom of Atlantis, following relationship can be applicable:
Avoemen << (A)Voemen << Vaman = Dwarf God
Vaman meaning “the Dwarf” is the Dwarf God. Vaman is supposed to be the Fifth Incarnation of God Vishnu (Hari) and accordingly an important God. The epical story of competition between the God Vaman and Demon (Titan) King Bali is very interesting one.
(4) Regarding “Diaprepes” kingdom of Atlantis, following relationship can be applicable:
Diaprepes << Dva Prepes << Dvar Pradesh = Dwarka
“Dvar Pradesh” translates as “The State or Kingdom of Door/Entrance.” The ancient port city of Dwarka also known as Dvaravati or Dvar Pradesh at the western coast of India fits well in to this mould, as it could have been the door of entrance to Atlantis from the western side of the world for the ships on the oceans.
After the destruction of Atlantis at Indonesia, the Port city of Dwarka again reached to its zenith at ~ 5500 BC when it became the most powerful city of remnant Atlantis during the Mahabharat War. Albeit soon afterwards during ~ 5475 BC Dwarka port and city again submerged under the rapid rise of the sea in a most harmless manner as it was predicted well in advance. Since then and even now a modern Dwarka City still stands at the nearby seashores.
(5) Regarding “Mestor” kingdom of Atlantis, following relationship can be applicable:
Firstly it may be at Sumatra. Sumatra can be a simple abbreviation of SuMahaAstra. This translates as the “Auspicious Great Weapon”.
Sumahaastra >> Suma(haas)tra >> Sumatra
Sumatra may have the facility for safe storage of the high grade and godly (auspicious) Great Weapons in custody of God Varun.
Mestor << Mastra <-<- Su Maha Astra ->-> Sumatra
In fact as a part of my first such attempt, I had considered the Indian region of “Maharashtra” as “Mestor”.
Maharashtra >> Ma(hara)shtra >> Mastra >> Mestro >> Mestor
Then I felt that the oldest depiction of the name “Maharashtra” in the epics may pertain to the period of ~3102 BC. This could not have fitted well with ~9600 BC, but I still feel it to be an open case.
(6) Regarding Atlantean Kingdom of “Emeleus” following relationship may be possible :
Emeleus << Hemeleus << Himalayas
“HimAlaya” literally translates to “House of Ice”. Himalayas is the highest and largest mountain chain in the world. Himalayas and its ancillary mountains extend almost uninterruptedly from S.E. Asia to Harmenia. Some of the world’s best rivers with heaviest rate of water flow originate from this region. It can be strongly anticipated that during Atlantean times, the Mekong River originating from Himalayas may be flowing through erstwhile VarunMahalaya Pradesh or Modern Borneo and Java. This river can also be a part of great support to the legendary canal network system of Atlantis proper. Atlantean Kingdoms of Diaprepes, Autochthon and Ampheres could also be getting enriched by various other Himalayan rivers.
The capital of Emeleus Kingdom could have been at Dhaka (Ancient “DhakkaAmrit” = Hidden pot of Nector). This was the legendary “nectar of immortality” for which the Gods (Devas) and Titans (Daityas) fought probably for the first time.
Emeleus Kingdom would have been something special to the Greeks. That is why Sais Priest explained to Solon its location with reference to the then known parameters (Gades etc.). Also this is the only Kingdom whose two names “Emeleus” and “Gaderius” were told to Solon.
“Gaderius” in Hindi means to be “Shepherd” of Cows or Sheep or other grazing animals as well.
GowDharia >> Godaria >> Gaderia >> Gaderius = Defender of Cow
Here “Go” or “Gow” = Cow
and “Dhar” or “Dharia” = Holder or Guard or defender.
Here we can also understand that “Gades” has to be “Godesh” i.e. “Nation of Cows”, that the Greeks at least before Herodotus considered to be same as India situated in the east of the Thar Desert and Gujarat etc. Here anomaly of the historical memory arising out of the time lapse becomes evident, that when the Greeks left India, they considered it as Autochthon (Land of Elephants) and now reviewing it again, they called it as the “Nation of the Cows”.
But the riddle is that in Greek Language as I understand, “Emeleus” = Rich in Sheep.
Obviously, Greeks seem to have still remembered the important name of Himalayas (Emeleus), but also have forgotten its real meaning. So as an alternate to it, they substituted it with the next most popular meaning akin to them i.e. Shepherds rich in Sheep. It is worth noting that at the heights of Himalayan Mountainous Region, the Gaderius or Shepherds keep minimum of Cows and maximum of Sheep.
So we can find that Himalayas = Emeleus = Rich in Sheep = Gaderius
However later on Phoenicians were able to rename the places as Atlas, Gades, Gadeira, Guadalkivir (Godavari El Kaveri), Gaderius in North Africa and Iberia (Yavaria).
(7) Regarding Atlantean Kingdom of “Autochthon”, following relationship may be possible :
Autochthon << Hauto shthon << Hati Sthan << Hasti Sthan = Land of Elephants
Please remember the famous Atlantean “Elephants” of Plato.
“Hasti”, “Hathee” and “Hatti” all are translated as the “Elephant”.
“Sthan” translates as the “land” or “place”.
Plato said that the elephants were in abundance at Atlantis. So “Autochthon” may literally translate as “The Land of Elephants”.
This may remind us of the famous epical city of “HastinaPur”. “Hastina” means to be the “She-Elephant” and “Pur” means to be the city as in SinghPur (Singapore = Lion City). So ancient Hastinapur (She-Elephant City) has to be the capital of Kingdom of Hastisthan (Autochthon).
Instead of being a simple She-Elephant, this Goddess Hastina had to be a form of Goddess Mother Durga i.e. mother of the Elephant God Ganesha.
After the destruction of Atlantis at Indonesia, at first the City of Ayodhya (HariAyodhya i.e. may be the primordial city of Arcodia) would have become the most important city of India and remnant Atlantis.
Then City of Hastinapur (Hatheenapur i.e. may be the primordial city of hAthens or Athens) would have become the most important city of India and remnant Atlantis.
In fact Hastinapur remained as the capital of India for many thousands of years. The epical battle of Mahabharat (Great India) was fought during the rule of City Hastinapur. Even today Hastinapur is the capital of India as New Delhi stands at the ruins of ancient Hastinapur.
Now it may be possible that “Goddess Athena” was same as “Goddess Hastina or Hathena”. The name of Goddess Athena ‘s husband was HePhaestos. Incidentally IndraPrastha was the twin-city of Hastinapur. Indraprastha also remained as the capital of ancient India for some time.
God Indra is the elder brother of Hari. So in some way some people could have also thought of City IndraPrastha as being City HariPrastha.
HariPrastha >> HePhrasta >> HePhraesta >> HePhaesta >> HePhaestos
So we find that the husband and wife “HePhaestos” and “Athena” may be the ancient Atlantean twin cities of “Hastinapur” and “IndraPrastha”. New Delhi stands on the ruins of IndraPrastha too.
So we should not be astonished, that why some time after the MahaBharat war of ~5500 BC, we find the Hittites (HattiDes = Nation of Elephants) peoples in perpetual search of their lost nation of Hatosthan. Why Kurdish Hurrian peoples were also searching for their lost Hatosthan?
(8) Regarding Atlantean Kingdom of “Elosippos” following relationship may be possible :
Elosippos << (K)elosippos << Kelasippos << Kelas Parvat = Kelash Mountain
Here suffix “ppos“ in Greek may have something to do with the “Mountain” as in “Olymppos”.
“Elosippos” can also be a phonetic variation of the theological region of “Elavarta”. This Elavarta is supposed to be situated in Tibet and Mount Kelash is located on its southern border. God El (Shiva / Har / Shankar) is supposed to be the ruler of Elavarta and he resides at the top of the Mount Kelash.
Obviously the Atlantean Kingdom of “Elasippos” may be including the region of Tibet at north of Mt. Kelash.
Somehow I feel that the people who considered El or similar names to be as their gods, would have been in ancient times physically or theologically connected with this Atlantean Kingdom of Elasippos.
(9) Regarding another Atlantean Kingdom of “Manaseus” following relationship may be possible:
Manaseus << Manasar or ManaSarovar
“ManaSarovar” or “Manasar” meaning to be “The lake of mind” is supposed to have been created by the mind (Manas) of God Brahma for the Gods. This is situated in Tibet and considered to be a highly sacred place by the Hindus and Budhhists.
(10) Regarding Atlantean Kingdom of “Ampheres” following relationship may be possible:
Ampheres << (R)am Pheres << Ram Pharas << Pharas Ram << Pharasu Ram = Parashu Ram
Parashuram or PharasuRam is supposed to be the Sixth incarnation of God Vishnu. Parashuram is supposed to have single handedly destroyed 21 times all the arrogant warriors from the face of this earth. His weapon was Parasu (Farsa) or wide bladed axe.
In Greek and as limited to my knowledge, “Ampheres” means to be present on both sides. With this I guess that “Ampheres” would have been present on both eastern and western extremities of Atlantis. It seems that two Ampheres would have been present at the eastern and western interfaces of Atlantis with reference and interaction to the rest of the world and may be as their guards.
West Ampheres may be comprising of Kurdistan and Iran, Here we should remember that these peoples were called by very similar name “Parsi”. Also this region was called “Pharas”. Sarmatians or White Dravid Sharma peoples from India can be their priests. Later on Sarmatians seem to have left their sacred practices and joined their legions with the Cythians and spread up to ancient Britain. Camboj Dravid peoples originating in or near Borneo Malay Paradise also seem to have their presence and association with this region.
East Ampheres may be comprizing of Cambodia, Vietnam, Laos and at least Eastern Thailand. Western Thailand may be with Azaes. Camboj Dravid people seem to have a very strong association with this region. It is most likely that Cambodia would have been named after these very Camboj Dravida peoples.
Why am I associating Cambodia with Iran? At both these places, I am queerly finding these ancient peoples associated With Meru, Sumeru etc.. “Sumer” peoples of ancient Iran seem to have association with Mt. Sumeru or Meru. On the other hand the ancient “Khmeru“ peoples of Cambodia seem to have association with or may be the followers of Mt. Krakatua or Atlas. And we know the importance of Mt. Meru’s in Atlantean like epical matters.
Where the “STATES” bend to the Sacred Tunes of the “Terrestrial PARADISE”:
If "Varun Mahalaya Pradesh" or "Borun Mahalaya Pradesh" or "Borneo Malaya Paradise" were the one and the only primordial paradise of the Ante-Diluvian period, then it is very likely that almost all other names of the Paradise shall bear some transformation or resemblance with this name or the part thereof. BTW, Sacred Garden is supposed to be the integral part of the Paradise, so the Garden may also be associated with the Paradise.
Varun = Borun = Poseidon
Mahalaya = Maha + Alaya
Maha = Great, Big, Huge;
Alaya = House, Palace, Mansion, Residence
So; “Mahalaya” shall literally translate as “Great Palace”
Pradesh = State, Province, Region, Kingdom, Land
So; "Varun Mahalaya Pradesh" shall literally translate as “Varun’s GreatPalace State”.
Case (1): European “Paradise” << Pradesh = State
Case (2): Iranian Paradise “Firdose” << Phirdose << Pirdes << Pradesh = State
Case (3): Egyptian Paradise “Punt” << Prant = Pradesh = State
(Egyptian case may be an interesting one, because albeit Egyptian language is Non-IE, but their original Paradise of “Punt” or “Prant” literally translates as “Pradesh” or “Paradise” in the ancient IE languages. This instance may indicate that Atlantean Paradise would have been the origin of all IE and other Non-IE languages.)
Case (4): Arabian Paradise “Havilah” << Havila << Haveli = Great Palace = Mahalaya
Case (5): Celtic Paradise “Avalon” << Havalon << Havelo << Haveli = Great Palace = Mahalaya
Case (6): As many Atlantean survivors have extolled the “State” or “Pradesh” of Atlantis as being “Terrestrial Paradise”, so some other Atlantean survivors seem to have equally extolled the Capital City of the Atlas Kingdom.
Now we can find another most intriguing Chinese “Paradise = Shangri-La”.
Shangrila << Shringerila << Shri Nagari Ela = Sacred City of Shiva = City of Kailash = City of Atlas = Atlantean Capital of Varun Mahalaya Pradesh.
Case (7): As I understand, the ancient Sumeru or some similar people therein claimed themselves to be coming from the sunken lands of “Dilmun” or “Dilamun”.
Dilamun << Deolamun << “Deol Amon” or “Deol Vamon”
Here “Deol” is commonly used colloquial abbreviation of “DeoAlaya or DevAlaya”.
Deol = DeoAlaya = House of God = Temple
Vamon = Fifth incarnation of God Vishnu or may be Egyptian God Amon.
So; Dilmun = “Temple of God Amon” or “Residence of God Vamon”
Perhaps these people came out from some place which was called “Residence of God Vamon”. As I have considered earlier, this may be “Atlantean Kingdom of Avoemen”. So maximum possibility can be there that these people came from South India and specially from the sunken lands of Orissa, Tamilnadu or even Sri Lanka. It all may be still an open question.
Case (8): For the ancient Norse peoples, the residence of their Gods or their Paradise was called “Esgard”.
Paradise = Esgard << Esh Gard << Esh Gardh << Esh Garh = Fort of Gods = Big Palace of Gods = Mahalaya of Gods = Mahalaya
(Esh = God; Garh OR Gardh = Fort)
Case (9): I think that the cultural separation and social isolation of the Maoris for long has compressed the basics of theological names in to few but most important names that are akin to the known Atlantean names.
Maoris seem to be adding “Te” before every sacred or divine name. This must be similar to “The” of English.
Te << The << Theo << Deo << Dev = God = Divine
The supreme God of Maori has His home in “Te-Toi-o-nga-rangi”, the uppermost heaven.
Te = The:
Toi << Thoi = Doi = God (Supreme)
Nga = Naga (Cobra/Dragon)
Rangi= RahNagi = Residence of Naga = Naga Residence = NagRahi = Nagari = City
So “Te-Toi-o-nga-rangi” can be literally translated as “The God Naga City”.
This heaven (Paradise) is unapproachable by the messengers of the lesser gods, except by special permission, and the only door to it lies through Tawhiri-rangi.
Tawhiri Rangi << TwarHiri Nagari << Dwar-Hari Nagari << Haridwar Nagari = City of Haridwar
“Awatea” was the god of 'space and light' (atea and awatea) and the first heaven was created by him on the foundations established by Io. It was known as the heaven of Watea (Te Rangi-a-Watea).
Watea << Vatea << Vatiya << Vatika = Garden = Udyan = Eden
So; Te Rangi-a-Watea = Divine City of Garden = Divine City of Eden = Eden Garden
Tane and the other gods after him: Tangaroa, Rongo, Tumatauenga, Haumia-tike-tike, Ru-ai-moko, and Tawahiri-ma-tea
Tane << Tlane << aTlANE << Atlan (Atlas) << Atlang << Atala Nag
Tangaroa << Tan Naga Rao << Atlan Cobra Lord
Rongo << RaoNago << Rao Naga = Lord Cobra
Tumatauenga << The mahathaue nga << Deo MahaThave Naga << Deo Maha Dev Naga = The Great God Cobra (Shesha Nag)
Haumia Tike Tike << Bhaumia Tiketike << Bhumia Taktak << Bhumia Takchak = Land God Takchak = Epical “Taxak” Naga who was the famous epical Lord of the Naga
Ru-ai-moko << Rai Moko = Rai Maha Kal = Lord (of) Great Times = Shiva
Tawahiri-ma-tea << Haridwar Maha Deo = Great God of Haridwar
So the heavens were completed and became known as the great heavens of Tane (Rangi-nui-a-Tane).
In Maori, perhaps “Nui” translates as “Great”.
So: Rangi-nui-a-Tane = Nagari Great Atlan = Great Atlan City
“Great Atlan City” must be another good name of Atlantean Capital.
The Melanesians talk of an original Hawaiki, and so do the Polynesians, so neither of them are original in themselves.
Hawaiki << Hawaili << Haweli = Huge Palace = Mahalaya >> Havilah =Avalon = Paradise
BTW, Maori priests are called “Tohunga”.
Tohunga << Theo Naga = God Naga = Naga God = Priests
So Maori priests may be working as Naga Gods for them
Regarding the Papua New Guinea primordial Paradise of “Walkiri”, I have to think that the Paradise of Papua New Guinea has to be same or similar as that of the Maori and Easter Island peoples. So “Hawaiki” and “Walkiri” may be fragments of a common name.
Hawaiki + Walkiri = Ha + waliki + ri = Hawali Kiri
As in Chinese, pronunciations of “K” and “G” can be similar (Hua Kuo Feng = Hua Guo Feng):
So, Paradise = Hawalikiri = HaweliGiri = Haveli Giri
Here; Haveli = Palace, Giri = Mountain
So, Paradise = HaveliGiri = Palace Mountain = Mahalaya
Paradise of “Hawaiki” and “Walkiri” can be the “HaveliGiri” or “Palace Mountain” of Varun (Poseidon).
TERRESTRIAL PARADISE & SACRED GARDEN
Looking in to the linguistic origins of “Eden” or “Eden Garden”, following relationship may apply:
Aden = Eden << Euden << Eudyan << Udyan = Garden
So perhaps in an ancient Indian language, the word “Eden” or “Udyan” itself was understood as “Garden”. However later on this relationship was forgotten by the Atlantean survivors for whom “Eden’ was something special like an ancient and lost Paradisiacal Garden and they slowly must have out of reverence converted its meaning in to its name. So ultimately the “Eden” instead of remaining a translation meaning of "Garden", got converted in to the name of a particular ancient Paradisiacal Garden, which was to be called as “Eden” or “Eden Garden”. Albeit with reference to the original meaning this “Eden Garden” should translate as “Garden-Garden”.
Looking in to the ancient Lemurian like importance of Eden, I think that the word “Udyan” could have originated in the original “Naga Dragon Dravid” (Proto- Dravid) language i.e Language of the People's. This could have easily crept in to the Language of the Gods i.e. Dravida language and then was accepted in Sanskrit i.e. the Language created by the Gods.
Similar connection we can find that the Sumerian Epical Hero Gilgamesh traveled to the sunken or lost Paradise and there he met with the remnant and the last immortal ante-diluvian King of Paradise, who was called by name “Utnapistim”.
Utnapistim << Udnapristhim << Udana Prasthi << Udyan Prasthi = Resident of Garden
(Udyan = Garden; Prasthi = Resident)
So the last immortal ante-diluvian King of Atlantean Paradise, who was called by name “Utnapistim” was a “Resident of Garden” i.e. Resident of Eden”.
In the Holy Books, the Seraphim (= Serpam = Naga Cobra Dragon) have been depicted as the guards of the Eden and the Paradise. So this concept has been already broadly evident in India and vicinity:
Bengal = Bangal << Vangal << Vannagal << Vannagel << Van Nag El = Forest (Garden) of Naga God El = Garden of Shiva
(Van = Garden or Forest; Nag = Cobra Dragon; El = God Shiva)
Taiwan << Thaivvan << Thaiv Van << Daiv Van = Forest of God
(Thaiv, Daiv, Dev, Deo or Theo = God; Van = Garden or Forest)
Vrundavan << Varunda Van << Varun Deo Van = Forest of God Varun (Poseidon)
The word “Gaul” or “Gal” seem to have been associated with many sacred seashore lands.
Portugal << Portu Gal << Pyort nGael << Pavitra Naga El = Sacred Cobra God El
May be that all ports would have been considered sacred during the ancient Atlantean times.
The Proto-Dravid or Nag Dragon-Dravid and hence the Dravid peoples can be considered to be the most ancient cultured peoples of the ancient so-called Lemurian times. This can be understood by following relationship:
Dravid << Dhravir << Dhara Vir (Last “d” of Dravid sounds like “r” as well).
(Dhara = Earth; Vir = Warrior)
So; Dravid = Warrior of the Earth (Obviously Warriors and Defenders of the Earth were to be promoted as Gods at appropriate stages of development)
Dragon << Dhragon << Dhara Gan = Peoples of the Earth
(Dhara = Earth; Gan = Peoples or Group of Peoples)
So, Cobra Dragons (Nag) were perhaps the first civilized groups of the “Peoples of the Earth” who developed in to the Dravids or “Warriors or Defenders or Lords or Gods of the Earth”.
WHERE BASQUES DARE...
The ancient Basque peoples are strongly considered as being associated with the Atlantis. This may not be possible without a hardcore substance:
As per the ancient Basque folklore, "Txiki" (pronounced "cheeky") means "little" in an affectionate sense. Their Hero San Martin is often called simply "Martintxiki" or "Samartitxiki" in the stories.
San Martin = Martintxiki << Martin Txiki << Mahratin Taxaki << Maharathin Taxak << MahaRathi Taxak
MahaRathi = Great Chariot Warrior
Taxak = Famous and Epical Nag (Cobra) God and King and Warrior.
Hence San Martin (Martintxiki) of the ancient Basque peoples is none else than the famous epical Nag (Cobra Dragon) God TAXAK.
San Martin = Samartitxiki << Samarti Txiki << Samrati Taxaki << Samrat Taxak
Samrat = Emperor, Monarch, King
Taxak = Famous and Epical Nag (Cobra) God
Hence San Martin (Samartitxiki) of the ancient Basque peoples is none else than the famous epical Nag (Cobra Dragon) God TAXAK.
“Cobra God Taxak” has been depicted well in the famous Indian Epic Mahabharat, so now it should be difficult to say that the ancient connections of Basque peoples are completely unknown.
Further the language of Basque peoples is called “Euskara”:
Euskara << EshKara << Esh Kara = Created by God.
Esh = God; Kara = Done or Created
As “SANSKRIT” means as “Cultured and Created (by God)”, so Basque language “EUSKARA” means as “Created by God”.
So the Basque language in many ways may be related with the ancient “Naga Dravida Language”.
Then who should be the “BASQUE Peoples”?
Basque << Baskue << Basuke << Basuki (Vasuki)
“BASUKI or Vasuki” is again the famous epical Nag (Cobra Dragon) God, who was highly instrumental in famous epical churning of the ocean where he enacted as the rope surrounding the Mount Mandrachal for churning.
So Basque peoples may be the descendents and followers of the ancient God Basuki Nag.
Now the peoples living around Mount “MandaraChal” should be colloquially called as “Mandara Gan”.
Mandara Gan >> Madra Gon >> Mandragon >> Man Dragon
The epical stories of famous or infamous “Man Dragon” spread all across Europe shall find their local origin in “Mount ManDragon” or “Mount MontoChristo” of the Basque Region. However, their primordial origin has to be in SE Asian Atlantis.
So ancient Basques might be residing in the vicinity of Mount Mandarachal (Taiwan ??) and perhaps they were asked by Nag-Dravida Dragon God Vishnu to be associated in churning of the ocean. I hope some of their long lost folklore must be depicting this episode somehow.
MAHALAYA FOR EVER...
As Atlas Kingdom could have been called as “Varun Mahalaya Pradesh” or “Borneo Malaya Paradise”, I think the sacred name “Mahalaya” could have also got converted in to the names of many ancient cities of India and outside.
Mahalaya = Maha+Alaya = Great (Big, Huge) + House (Palace, Abode, Residence)
Maha = Great, Big, Huge = Bada or Vada/Vado or Vara/Bara .
Alaya” translates as “Adri”, practically for all its meanings.
Alaya (House) = Adri
(For example Himalaya is also called as “Him-adri” or “House of Ice”, Ocean is called as “Shesh-adri” or the “House of God Shesha Nag” and “Simhadri” translates as Residence of the Lions i.e. Singapore.)
Mahalaya = Maha + Alaya = Maha + Adri = Mahadri, So, Mahalaya = Mahadri
Due to the colloquial transformations this word “Adri” could have got converted in to any of the following words:
Adri >> Adra >> Athra >> Athir >> Athura >> Adura
Accordingly, we can get some names of the ancient Indian cities as following:
Mahalaya = Mahadri >> Mahadura >> Mahathura >> Mathura
“Mathura” is the ancient city of Yadava dynasty and sacred birthplace of God Krishna.
Mahalaya = Mahadri >> Mahadura >> Madura
“Madura” or Madurai is the sacred ancient city of Tamilnadu (South India).
Mahalaya = Mahadri = Vadoadri >> Vadodri >> Vadodra
Vadodra (Vadodara or Baroda) is a big city of Gujarat (West India).
It seems that this sacred name of “Mahalaya = Mahadri” has also crossed in to Europe.
Mahalaya = Mahadri >> Madri >> Madrid
“Madrid” is the Capital City of Spain, obviously where some scholars think that the Atlantis has sunken at south in Gibraltar around ~1500 BC. As the Spanish themselves have perhaps named the “Medirra” Islands thinking it to be a part of Hesperides, it may be self-evident.
As we know that Atlanteans from Mahalaya were supposed to be great Sailors, So;
Mahalaya >> Malalaha >> Mallaha = Ancient & modern Sailors of India
I suspect that these "Mallaha" Sailor peoples were same as ancient "Melluha" peoples of Indus Valley, who were trading with the Akkadians.
Further it is quite possible that the Atlanteans from Mahalaya were associated with the Paradise and consequentially with the Sacred Garden, So;
Mahalaya>>Mahalaha>>Malla >> Malli = Ancient & modern Gardeners of India
Also it is quite possible that the Atlanteans Kings from Mahalaya were associated with the "mixed Naga Dravid Dynasty" (Dravidians with Naga Totem i.e. Dragon Dravidians), so Malla Kings of Nepal and ancient Melchizadek Kings from Middle East can be associated originally with the Atlantean Mahalaya Paradise.
The Hungarians call themselves as “Magyar”.
Magyar << Mahagyar << Mahaghar << Maha Ghar = Great Palace = Mahalaya
(Here; Maha = Great, Big, Huge; Ghar = House, Palace)
So, Hungarians might have their origin associated with “Mahalaya”.
In Hungarian "Magyarország" (Hungary).
Hungary = Magyarország << Magyar Rszag << Magyar Raszg << Magyar Rasjg << Magyar Raj = Kingdom of Great Palace = Pradesh of Great Palace = Paradise of Great Palace = Varun Mahalaya Pradesh = Borneo Malaya Paradise
(Here; Magyar = Great Palace, Raj = King or Kingdom)
Let us have a look at Bulgaria:
Bulgaria << Bulgar << Balgar << Barghar << Bara Ghar = Huge Palace.
((This so because in Chinese “R” >>= “L”))
(Here; “Bara” or “Bada” = Huge, Big; “Ghar” = House, Palace)
Hence Bulagarians too appear to be arriving originally from "Mahalaya".
We can find similar ancient connections even in the Persian Gulf or ancient Dilmun:
Bahrain << Bahruin << Bahrun << Barun << Varun
All this may tantamount to ancient destruction, fragmentation and whither away of Terrestrial Atlantean Paradise and its inmates.
Fabled “Atlantic islands” – The ancient European Dreamland…
The fabled “Atlantic islands” such as Brazil, Argentina, Septe Cidades (Antilla); San Brandan; Satanazes; Roillo; Salvaggia; Capraria; Madeira; etc. were being searched by Europeans for centuries and never found.
Brazil << Braj El = God of Braj = Krishna (Vishnu).
Argentina << Arguntina << Arjunsthina << Arjun Sthan = Land of Arjun (Arjun was the King and Chief Man Warrior at the Battle of Maha-Bharata).
Septe Cidades << Septe Sidha des << Sapt Sindha Des << Sapt Sindhu Des = Seven Sindhu Land = Indus Valley and Punjab = Ancient Epical Region in North India.
San Brandan = Brandan << Brandavan << Brindavan = Epical Playing Garden of God Krishna (Now situated at ~120 Km South of New Delhi).
Satanazes << Sata Nagis << Sata Naga = Hundred Cobra Dragons OR Cobra Dragon with Hundred Hoods = Dragon Kalia Nag (the erstwhile ruler of Vrindavan), who was overpowered by God Krishna at the banks of river Yamuna in Mathura & Vrindavan.
Roillo << Raoillo << Raoell << Rao El = God Shiva.
Salvaggia << Salvagya << Salva Agya = Command of Salva = Kingdom of Salva (Salva was the King and thrower of “Salvos” tipped with Nuke like destroyers at the Battle of Maha-Bharata). So the word “Salvo” may have its origin with Warrior Salva.
Capraria << Sapraria << Sarparia << Sarpari = Enemy of Snakes (Garuda or Vishnu or Krishna).
Madeira << Matheira << Mathura (Birthplace of God Krishna)
All the places as above match suitably with characters and places as depicted in the epic Maha-Bharata.
All these places and the battlefield of Maha-Bharata are situated in the North-Western Region of ancient India. So they were situated in the “direction of West” from Java. As such those Yavans (Javans) who moved out from Java to Europe and Middle East bypassing India (through China OR through Oceans), they took away with them the original concept that these “so-called Islands” were in the “direction of West”. Accordingly the Greeks perhaps find their “Islands of Hesperides” in the Western Ocean of Modern Atlantic.
Moreover the connection with MahaBharat War may indicate that this “Many Islands Ahead” phenomenon and the concerned folklore are a mixed-up post-Atlantean influence of ~ 5500 BC, when many of the Warriors from India moved west to Middle East and Europe and met there with Yavans coming from Java. They certainly exchanged their opinions and this “direction of West” was to become an integral part of their psychology.
This may also explain as to why the European mindset invariably thought that like Hesperides, the Atlantis of Priest, Solon and Plato too belonged to the Western Ocean of Modern Atlantic.
Caravan of Culture, from Ethiopia to Australia…
Scientists are generally of the opinion that the man has originated from Africa. However some scientists are having different opinions and they consider Indonesia and other centers as well. So it still has to be an open question and we have to be open minded on this issue.
With the assumption that the Man came out from Africa, the “Asian” branch of H. Sapiens is similar to “Proto-Dravids with Naga (Cobra Dragon) Totem”, who moved from Ethiopia towards India.
Among these “Proto-Dravids with Naga Totem”, The “South East Asian” peoples moved earliest or at the fastest speed mostly along the seashores. So they could cross India and unsunken Indonesia to reach up to New Guinea and Australia. For movement of these peoples, I have to consider their origin at Ethiopia and their fringe area as Australia. I think that this “South East Asian” branch was not pushed off to the fringe areas by the onslaught of the oncoming “NagaDravid” peoples. Rather this “South East Asian” branch could have overshot along the seashores to Australia. They could be more of the movers than the settlers, so perhaps they themselves could not have created the settled civilizations. This branch could never have crossed to the north of Himalayas and Kurdish Armenian Mountains. Many of these peoples could be participating within the Atlantis Proper at Indonesia and so the remnant among them could have migrated to remote islands after the apocalypse of ~9600 BC. I think that these peoples could have been the first to reach to Lemuria(!) at Sri Lanka / South India and also to the Atlantean Paradise at Indonesia.
The “Asian” branch of H. Sapiens is similar to “Proto-Dravids with Naga Totem”, who moved from Ethiopia towards India. Among these “Proto-Dravids with Naga Totem”, The “North Eurasian” peoples would have stayed for some time on the southern side of Himalayas in the region from Afghanistan to Hastinapur (New Delhi). As these peoples were moving behind the “South East Asian” peoples, so they had some advance information and knowledge of the track. In this region, we can find a tendency that here “Naga Dravids (Future Indian Branch)” may be trying to settle around cold Hastinapur and the “Sea Dravids (Future S.E. Indian Branch)” may be trying to move to futuristic Lemuria at Sri Lanka / South India through Gujarat. From this region the “South East Asian” peoples were moving to further east and the “Mountain Naga Dravids (Future Mongols, N.E. Asians and Americans)” were preparing to settle in the vicinity of Himalayan Mountains and then even cross it to the North.
“South East Asian” peoples were perhaps the first to reach to Indonesia. Then “Naga Dravids (Indian Branch) from Hastinapur”, “Mountain Naga Dravids (Future Red Indians/Americans)” from south of Himalayas and “Sea Dravid Gods (Future S.E. Indian branch)” from Lemuria (!) might have reached to Atlantis. I think, by this time N.E. Asians (Future Mongols) had started crossing Himalayas and going to Tibet, Siberia etc. I think these groups are sufficient to explain the four colors of Atlantis. It is possible that genetically Indians and SE Indians were present in Atlantis as “Caucasoid Branch”.
In my opinion, the end of Atlantis may approximately belong to the genetic variation period of ~0.01% when N.W. Amerind branch separated from N. Amerind. This period may also match, when the “Lapp peoples” separated from “Caucasoid Indian Branch”.
Also the building of Atlantis could have been during the genetic variation period of ~0.015%, when “Red Indians/Americans” separated from “N.E. Asians”.
The man could have traveled enough distances before turning in to a civilization, I mean if he wanted it to be. During the evolutionary stage of the man, Garden of Eden could have been some nice stage, which the ancients perhaps cherished reminiscently. In my opinion, whether it is to be related with religion or not may be the free choice of the individuals or the groups.
The separation of Lapp Caucasoid branch from the Indian Caucasoid branch could have occurred sometimes during the destruction of Atlantis. This may represent some type of anarchy and migrations existing then. It is also important to note that Lapps could not branch off into other major branches of Europe, rather they remained secluded within some isolated pockets. So genetically the Lapp Caucasoid branch is not forming the mainstream of the European branch. {{I am afraid, this Lapp branch may be related with the Athenians who fought against the Renegade Atlantean Despot at the Mediterranean Sea.}}
As the Lapps came out from the common Caucasoid genetic and cultural pool of the “Cloud Naga Dravid” Peoples of Hastinagpur (Delhi) and “Sea Dravids”, so they had to be having the Dravida connections as well. This may explain the presence of ancient Dravidian related languages in remote areas of Europe and some other parts of the world even in the ancient Athens.
The European mainstream should have been constituted genetically from the Indian Caucasoid branch, because Indonesian paradise has been sunken and lost. This is what exactly we find at modern genetic studies. Surprisingly almost all of the Europeans are found genetically connected directly with the Indians. The S.W. Asians and Sardinians genetically separated from the Indians and they further branched off in to North Africans, Europeans and Iranians. What else any other better genetic imprint an Indian-Indonesian Atlantis would have left on the human genetic maps of the world??
It is possible that the scientific search of such genetic links could have dealt the final blows to the “Aryan Invasion Theory”. Otherwise the “Aryan Invasion Theory” was surviving in the minds of some scholars, even without providing any explanation for the existence of Mittani Empire and Kassites like Kings.
It can be guessed that the “Cloud Naga Dravid” Peoples at Hastinagpur (Delhi) and “Sea Dravids” had common Caucasoid genes. These would have not altered much even when the “Sea Dravids” formed Lemuria with a genetic variation of ~0.017% and then both “Cloud Naga Dravid” Peoples and “Sea Dravids” formed Atlantis at Indonesia. Obviously the genetic mixing of Gods (and Kings) was much more prominent at Atlantis and not the genetic mixing of the peoples. So much so that the SE Indian peoples could genetically deviate much later directly from the Indian branch thousands of years after the destruction of Atlantis and when all the Gods including Krishna had left this mortal earth.
The ensuing loss of culture and technology after Mahabharat War could have further diluted the contacts among the Indians, so a variant like SE Indian peoples could have emerged.
Egyptian SPHINX - The "ROYAL EMBLEM" of "ATLANTIS PROPER"...
For Proto-Dravid peoples of “Nag” Totem, the word “Nag” perhaps meant as “Cobra Dragon”, but it could have also meant as something like “Divine” or “Majestic”. This may be because the word “Nag” also has different meanings like “Elephant Cobra (Ganesha)”, “Mountain Cobra (Shiva/El)”, “Clouds Cobra (Indra)” etc. At the theological apex of Nag Totem could have been the Cobra Nag (Vishnu/Vishnag/Shesha Nag). Ancient Lemurian Dravidian Kings at (S. India & Srilanka) also seem to have accepted the “Garuda (Celestial Eagle)” totem. Later Chatriya worriers & Kings perhaps have accepted the “Lion (Sinh)” totem.
However this story of Totems could have reached to climax, when the Descendant Atlantean Kings of Varun (Poseidon) at “Varun Mahalaya Pradesh” had accepted the “Sinh Nag” or “Lion Cobra” as their Royal Totem and so the “Royal Emblem”. So most probably, from their side these Kings had named the Capital City of Atlantis Proper at “Varun Mahalaya Pradesh” or “Atlas Kingdom” as “Lion Cobra City”.
Lion Cobra City = Sinh Naga Pur >> Sinhnagapur >> Sinnagapur >> Singapur = Singapore
(Sinh = Lion; Naga = Cobra; Pur = City)
As the “Lion Cobra” peoples belonged to ancient Atlantean Royalty. So;
Royal = Lion Cobra = Sinh Nag >> Sinnag >> Singh >> Sing >> Cing >> King
In Indian tradition, we still find that almost all the Sacred Royal “Kings” are “Singhs”.
As we see the unexplained importance of “Sphinx” in ancient Egypt and we know that the Greeks called the “Sphinx” as “Sphingha”, then we can understand:
Lion Cobra = Sinh Naga >> Sinnaga >> Singha >> Sphingha >> Sphinx
So the Egyptian Sphinx may signify the Atlantean Lion Cobra Dragon King, who has the Body of a Lion, Hooded Manes of a Cobra and Face of God Vishnu/Varun (Royal King).
So I feel that Sphinx must have been the Royal Emblem of the Atlantis Proper.
INDIA :- GOD's KINGDOM on the EARTH
Another possible ancient name of the sacred Terrestrial Paradise can be quite interesting:
Bhu = Earth, Land; Rashtra = Kingdom, Nation
BhuRashtra = Kingdom on Earth = God’s Kingdom on Earth = Terrestrial Paradise
BhuRashtra >> Bharashtra >> Bharashta >> Bharata = India = God’s Kingdom on Earth
This can be better understood in light of the still existing names of some following regions:
Saurashtra << SuRashtra = Auspicious Kingdom; (“Saurashtra” is a region in Gujarat Pradesh of India)
MahaRashtra = Great Kingdom; (“Maharashtra” is a Province of India)
SuRashtra >> Surashta >> Surata >> Surat; (“Surat” is a big port city in Gujarat)
If the above is true, then we can understand how the ancient sacred epic writers were silent about the sinking of Atlantean Paradise of God Varun. They seem to have silently shifted the name of Indonesian Atlantean Paradise back to the old Indian Lemurian Paradise, which remained as a survivor and remnant Kingdom of the lost Atlantean Paradise. The onus of naming India as “Bharata” or “Bharat” was coolly put with retrospective effect on the shoulders of the Lion taming Child King “Bharat”, who was son of King Dushyanta and queen Shakuntala during the epical age of Satayuga. Incidentally the name of queen “Shakuntala” means as “Shakun Atala” and it may literally translate as “Good Omen from Atalantis”
It should not be strange to note that during the ancient times Bharat (India) was considered as having Ten Kingdoms Comprising of Nine Kingdoms and Seven Islands. This must be during the initial onset of the Ice Age and so at the starting of sinking of Indonesian Atlantis.
For some ancient peoples of the Middle East, their “Jannat” (Paradise) might have been considered as the “Lord of the Universe”, as their “Lord of the Universe” may have been residing there.
Paradise = Jannat << Jagannat << Jagannath = Jagan Nath OR Jagat Nath = Lord of the Universe
(Jagat OR Jagan = World OR Universe; Nath = Lord)
Obviously the epical and linguistic influence of the ancient “Terrestrial Paradise” had surely crossed the boundaries of the so-called IE group of languages and cultures.
As has been thought earlier, Eden “Garden” and “Big Palace” had to be very very important to the civilized ancients. So why the big state of “Bihar” in India can be lagging behind in this respect?
“Bihar” or “Vihar” = Roaming (in Garden/Forest) = Garden
Actually Buddhist Theology literally meant and translated “Bihar” or “Vihar” as “Sacred Garden” or “Monastery”.
So; “Bihar” or “Vihar” = “Sacred Garden” or “Monastery” = Ancient Garden of Gods = Eden Garden = Udyan
So; State of Bihar = Bihar Pradesh = Garden Paradise = Paradise of Eden
“Magadh” is an important region of Bihar. This “Magadh” perhaps appears as a part of Har-Magadhan (Harmageddon) and it may also be the origin of the Magi (Magahi) intellectuals.
“Magadh” is supposed to be the pure Sanskrit word (name), but the local residents call it as “Magaha” and this can be the original name of this region. So these residents are called as “Magahi” peoples.
So; Magadh << Magaha << Mahagaha << MahaGriha = Big Palace
(Here: Maha = Big, Huge; Griha = Palace, House, Residence)
Similarly “Maithil” is another important region of Bihar.
So; Maithil << MahaThil << Maha Dil << Maha Dir << MahaDri (Mahadri) = Mahalaya
(Here; MahaDri = Big Palace)
(Note: Here “R” would have changed to “L” due to some ancient Chinese like linguistic influence.)
So we can see that “Bihar” may literally mean as “Garden of God (Eden)” and it regions like “Magadh” and “Maithil” may literally mean as “Huge Palace (of God Varun)”. As such it should not be very strange that “Bihar Pradesh” consists of supposedly rare occurrence of all the three i.e. "Mahalaya", “Garden” and the “Paradise”.
Poseidon is known to have been worshipped in Berut, his image appearing on coins from that city. Poseidon of Beirut was also worshipped at Delos where there was an association of merchants, shipmasters and warehousmen called the Poseidoniastae of Berytus founded 110 BCE. Three of the four chapels at its headquarters on the hill northwest of the Sacred Lake were dedicated to Poseidon.
Please see the “Poseidon of Beirut” and “Poseidoniastae of Berytus”. This may indicate that Poseidon, Poseidoniastae, Beirut and Berytus have been intrinsically related during the ancient times.
Beirut << Berytus << Bheryt << Bharat = India =Ancient India inclusive of Indonesian Atlantean Paradise.
So originally Poseidon must have belonged to Bharat or Ancient India inclusive of now sunken Indonesian Atlantean Paradise. Looking in to the overall attributes of the God, it can be further asserted that Poseidon was same as Varun. In other words, some peoples at Middle-East could have known of Poseidon through their knowledge of India or owing to their ancient connections with India.
The Europeans associated “India” with old global nativity. The word “Indigenous” means native to any country on global basis.
Indigenous << Indi Genous << Indi Ganesh << Indian God Ganesha << Indian Elephant God of Hastinapur << of Hastinapur = of Autochthon << Autochthonous
As we know that “Autochthonous” really means same thing as “Indigenous” so “Autochthon” has to mean as “India”. As such “Hastinapur” has to be the global “Indigenous” or “Autochthonous” Native City and so “India” has to be the global “Indigenous” or “Autochthonous” and archetype “God’s Kingdom on Earth”.
PLATO gets VINDICATED…
Athenian women were partaking in the Army equally with the men…
Plato said that Atlantis has been destroyed & sunken during 9600 BC. Many orthodox looking researchers do not agree to this citing the lack of archeological evidences related with this period. They wish to keep Atlantean period within the boundary limits of the so-called historical periods like ~ 1500 BC or ~ 900 BC etc. They are convinced that no Atlantis like earlier civilization existed prior to this period.
However Plato has indicated that during the ancient Atlantean period, the Athenian women were partaking in the Army equally with the men. As far as known to me, no researcher so far has been able to find such evidences in Athens during the historical periods. So if Plato was true, then Atlantis had to be in the Pre-Historical periods.
PLATO used INTEGER MILLENIUM TIME SCALE for ANTIQUITY…
To explain various events of ancient Atlantis, Plato has used the data for periods like 9000 years, 8000 years and 1000 years. Some researchers are intrigued by the exactness of these figure and so tend to think them either as incorrect or hoax or translation errors. As I understand, Plato and ancients were using the INTEGER MILLENIUM TIME SCALE pertaining to the important events of Pre-Historical antiquity, without the use of any fraction’s thereof. This may explain that Plato may not be erring on these counts.
9000 Vs 900 years and the Mathematical ALGORITHM of Plato…
For his depiction of Atlantis, Plato has used a set of closely-knit compact and complex algorithm, which gets proven and completeness only by and within itself. If any data is changed therein by arbitrary will or by mistake, then the whole algorithm gets distorted beyond recognition mathematically and/or physically.
For example, the claim that Plato has increased figures of length and width of the huge Atlantean Plain by 10 times. In order to correct it, if these dimensions are reduced by 10 times, then the area of the Atlantean Plain gets reduced by 100 time and it gets unable to sustain the huge Atlantean population figures even if the population figures are also reduced by 10 times. This is because Plato has closely assimilated the mutually dependent figures of length, width, area and population, which exactly correlate with each other.
Further the claim that Plato has increased figures by 10 times and so has made 900 years as 9000 years, then 1200 Ships get reduced to 120 Ships, thus making a mockery of a huge global maritime empire. The 10 Atlantean Kingdoms also get reduced to one Kingdom only.
Regarding the claim that Plato has confused between figures of “Hundreds” with “Thousands”, this may not be acceptable because such figures are clearly different in Greek and ancient Egyptian languages in written as well as verbal modes. When the Sais Egyptian Priest and Greek Solon were originally discussing Atlantean history, then they had to resort to and correlate each information in written as well as verbal modes. The controversy of “Hundreds” Vs “Thousands” clearly brings the contradictions and mismatches also with the figures of length & width of Atlantean Plain Vs its Area and population.
The assumption that instead of “9000 Lunar Months”, Plato misunderstood them to be “9000 Solar years” may not be appropriate because Plato has clearly said that in Atlantis every year comprised of one summer and one rainy winter season:
“Twice in the year they gathered the fruits of the earth-in winter having the benefit of the rains of heaven, and in summer the water which the land supplied by introducing streams from the canals.”
Obviously no Lunar Month can incorporate a summer season, a winter season, rains and two seasonal harvests.
Similarly the Hybrid time scale of Pre-Historical Lunar Month scale combined with Historical Solar year scale may not be reliable, because here ultimately the Atlantean time period is said to be falling within the Lunar Month scale.
ORICHALCUM The BRASS polished with Sacred CINNABAR...
One more Atlantean secret gets resolved, that is “Orichalcum”.
Prof. Arysio Santos has emphatically stated about the “Orichalcum” being the “Brass”.
Please refer to Point No: 17 of the following:
( http://www.atlan.org/articles/checklist/ )
Here I wish to add further that to enhance the red firing sparkle of gold colored Orichalcum, the Brass was ritually finely polished with the Cinnabar (HgS, Sindoor) mixed with Ghee (Butter oil) or Linseed oil.
The micro amalgamation of fine traces of Hg with Brass ingredients could have added to the golden red firing sparkle of Orichalcum with the micro polished red tinge of Cinnabar.
ZEROING in to ATLANTIS AT INDIA & E. INDIES…
Following has been said by Plato in Timaeus, regarding the location of Atlantis:
“For these histories tell of a mighty power which unprovoked made an expedition against the whole of Europe and Asia, and to which your city put an end. This power came forth out of the Atlantic Ocean, for in those days the Atlantic was navigable; and there was an island situated in front of the straits which are by you called the Pillars of Heracles; the island was larger than Libya and Asia put together, and was the way to other islands, and from these you might pass to the whole of the opposite continent which surrounded the true ocean; for this sea which is within the Straits of Heracles is only a harbour, having a narrow entrance, but that other is a real sea, and the surrounding land may be most truly called a boundless continent.
Now in this island of Atlantis there was a great and wonderful empire which had rule over the whole island and several others, and over parts of the continent, and, furthermore, the men of Atlantis had subjected the parts of Libya within the columns of Heracles as far as Egypt, and of Europe as far as Tyrrhenia.”
Equipped with the above knowledge, it was simpler and quite natural for some European researchers to assume that Atlantis was sunken at the best in Atlantic Ocean or at the worst within Mediterranean Sea.
However with the development of scientific methods, the scientists started getting the idea that not a single Plain of size ~ 600x400 Km sq., is now lying sunken at ~ 40 to 60 Meter deep bellow the present oceanic level either in Atlantic or in Mediterranean oceans. This had to be confounding to many researchers.
Meanwhile Respected Prof. Arysio Nunes dos Santos ( www.atlan.org ) came up with his break through scientific theory that exactly such a huge Plain sunken during ~ 9600 BC i.e. at the ending period of Ice Age on the earth, lies silently within the South China Sea at SE Asia. The geography of this plain is exactly same as described by Plato.
Prof. Santos scientifically could show up with much global correlation’s that could have been possible only with the central presence of sunken Atlantis at SE Asia. I think the amount of cumulative coincidences in this matter may be much lesser than 1 PPM.
However during the last 2300 years the study of Plato and other ancient thinkers and historians like Priest, Solon, Critias, Herodotus, Diodorus Siculus, Strabo, Plini, Josephus and many others could never provide even an inkling of clue regarding the real location of Atlantis. The only identification of Atlantis remained as sunken in Atlantic Ocean bereft of any scientific clues.
Suddenly it came to my mind that every big shot has been consulted but Aristotle has always been ignored by all.
In-spite of being a supposedly non-believer in Atlantis, but with the virtue of being the closest and next philosopher thinker after Plato, Aristotle is the one who had the brain powers and historical opportunity to perform the summation of all that openly or not so openly transpired from Priest and Solon to Plato in the Atlantean matters.
On 3rd April 2007 I spontaneously consulted Aristotle with the following surprisingly revealing results:
QUOTE>>
Bryn Mawr Classical Review 96.10.2
Stuart Leggatt, Aristotle: On the Heavens I-II. Warminster: Aris & Phillips, 1995. ISBN 0-85668-662-X {hb}; 0-85668-663-8 {pb}.
Reviewed by Richard Wallace, Keele University.
The second passage, 298a9-20 from the end of book 2, is Aristotle in his more expansive vein:
Hence one should not be too sure of the incredibility of the view of those who conceive that there is continuity between the parts about the Pillars of Hercules and the parts about India, and that in this way the ocean is one….. [Stocks]
For this reason those who imagine that the region around the Pillars of Hercules joins on to the regions of India, and that in this way the ocean is one, are not, it would seem, suggesting anything utterly incredible…. [Guthrie]
Which is why those who suppose that the area about the Pillars of Hercules adjoins that about India, and that in this way the sea is single, do not seem to suppose anything too incredible…. [Leggatt]
<< UNQUOTE
Here Aristotle is clearly declaring and reflecting the perceived proximity and relationship of the Pillars of Hercules with India in the manner as the European historians and philosophers thought it then.
The manner and location in which Aristotle explained the location of India with reference to the Pillars of Hercules, is exactly the same manner and location in which Plato explained the location of Atlantis with reference to the Pillars of Hercules. This had to be a clinching idea as far as the theoretical levels are concerned.
Although this now seems to be a very simple matter, looking in to the retrospect I feel that the inordinate delay regarding the search for location of Atlantis can be attributed to the fact that Plato or his translators have inserted the name of Atlantic Ocean therein.
As I understand, the name Atlantic Ocean was used for the first time only in ~ 450 BC. So Priest and Solon could never have named the said Ocean as Atlantic during their discussions. Rather they would have called it as Oceanus or Single Sea as it was considered then.
Later the naming or translating it to Atlantic Ocean and the new found understanding of existence of a separate Atlantic Ocean were instrumental in confining the minds and energy of the researchers of Atlantis within the limited purview of this newly named ocean.
Now I am surprised, if the above dialogues of Aristotle would have been understood earlier in tandem with the dialogues of Plato on Atlantis, then the historical perception of the modern mankind would have been altered long back, must be for some good. However it is always good to be late than to be never.
With Regards…
Rajesh Mishra